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Re: Districts that have suspended summer workouts

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"Short of locking COMPLETELY down until we have a workable vaccine that 100% of the population will take (which we know will NEVER happen) then the virus will not be stopped and can only be slowed down."

So, am I to understand that YOU propose allowing the virus to run wild as opposed to a measure that would slow down the spread of the virus? So, am I to understand that YOU are willing to allow more people to die just so that businesses can continue to exploit people? So, I am I to understand that YOU are willing to put money ahead of human life?

It is a good thing that seat belts in automobiles are a 100% guarantee of saving a person's life, lest YOU would prefer that they not be used at all. :roll: It sure is a good thing that we have a 100% prevention rate with the Mumps vaccine, the Rubella vaccine, the Flu vaccine, the Diphtheria vaccine, in fact, all of our current vaccines, lest you would oppose taking any one of them because any effort that isn't 100%, is useless. :roll:

You obviously have not heard the latest from the CDC regarding this disease. That those who contract it, especially those who contract it without symptoms, can, and may, have serious long term lung disease from it. Yes, that means that young children may have life altering complications from this virus without ever knowing that they have had it. And YOU are willing to expose them to it because there is no 100% guarantee that isolating them from it, will eradicate it.

I really do not mean to come off as making this about you personally, I see many others on this website with similar attitudes about this virus. Your post just appeared below mine and I felt it necessary to respond. This virus doesn't care what color your skin is, which, if any, church that you attend, your political affiliation, what High School that you represent, or what teams that you are a fan of. It affects you the same as it affects me. Getting this thing under control has got to happen or there are going to be way too many families burying their loved ones. Maybe it is your family. Maybe it is mine. It need not be either.
The "Godfather" didn't whine like The "Slobfather" is doing, when he got INDICTED!!!!!

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Re: Districts that have suspended summer workouts

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Penguin wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:09 am
"Short of locking COMPLETELY down until we have a workable vaccine that 100% of the population will take (which we know will NEVER happen) then the virus will not be stopped and can only be slowed down."

So, am I to understand that YOU propose allowing the virus to run wild as opposed to a measure that would slow down the spread of the virus? So, am I to understand that YOU are willing to allow more people to die just so that businesses can continue to exploit people? So, I am I to understand that YOU are willing to put money ahead of human life?

It is a good thing that seat belts in automobiles are a 100% guarantee of saving a person's life, lest YOU would prefer that they not be used at all. :roll: It sure is a good thing that we have a 100% prevention rate with the Mumps vaccine, the Rubella vaccine, the Flu vaccine, the Diphtheria vaccine, in fact, all of our current vaccines, lest you would oppose taking any one of them because any effort that isn't 100%, is useless. :roll:

You obviously have not heard the latest from the CDC regarding this disease. That those who contract it, especially those who contract it without symptoms, can, and may, have serious long term lung disease from it. Yes, that means that young children may have life altering complications from this virus without ever knowing that they have had it. And YOU are willing to expose them to it because there is no 100% guarantee that isolating them from it, will eradicate it.

I really do not mean to come off as making this about you personally, I see many others on this website with similar attitudes about this virus. Your post just appeared below mine and I felt it necessary to respond. This virus doesn't care what color your skin is, which, if any, church that you attend, your political affiliation, what High School that you represent, or what teams that you are a fan of. It affects you the same as it affects me. Getting this thing under control has got to happen or there are going to be way too many families burying their loved ones. Maybe it is your family. Maybe it is mine. It need not be either.

Once again, someone picks a "quote" out of an entire post and decides to make that as the Gospel.
No, I never said ANYWHERE that we are to do NOTHING, you are saying that.
What I am saying is short of locking down EVERYTHING until a vaccine with 100% effectiveness (has never happened) and 100% of people take it (roughly 38% have said they would get a vaccine if it were available today), then the virus will always be present as soon as we open up the economy. I merely made THAT statement, nothing else. I said nothing about not doing anything...

Locking down the economy does not prevent people from getting it, you understand that, right? Unless its 100% locked down, and I mean everything, the virus will eventually work its way through and most of the population will have an opportunity to get it. I love how suddenly everyone is an expert on viruses and we ignore history.

By saying "I don't mean to make it personal, well then DON'T. If you say it, then clearly you wanted it to be personal. As far as I am aware, you are not a doctor, correct? So to come on here and to say "I haven't heard the latest and I don't know what I am talking about just because I disagree with your OPINION"...well that is extremely Bush League and below a poster like yourself who has been a respected poster on this site for so long.

Everything you stated above is your opinion, based on selected facts you choose. You ignore other facts because they don't justify your feelings. Your comments about what the CDC has said about "long-term issues" is not the full truth... The CDC says people are at risk, but you we are also at risk with the flu, heart disease, etc, etc, etc.
Just to keep "all in the loop" since the CDC is your expert of choice (apparently more so than Fauci this week). Here is the latest update.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tions.html

So, since you make assumptions about me based on my belief that students SHOULD be in school and we should have the opportunity to play sports, I will return the favor.
So you mean to tell me you are completely ok with 60,000 students, statewide, having not communicated with their teachers since March 16th?
You are ok with 5% of our students not being heard from?
You are ok with nearly 60% of students in our state already being "behind"? (that is BEFORE any modifications take place for this year) Obviously you haven't followed any of the AccelerateED discussions, because you would know that.....
You are ok with calls to DSS being down 400% due to students NOT being in school, so teachers cannot report abuses happening in households?
You are ok with the calls to the statewide suicide hotline up 350% due to the lockdowns?

I can go on and on..but you see the point. To make an assumption that a person is for allowing people to die based on one statement is at best incorrect and at worst, defamation of character. You have labeled me as someone who doesn't care for the health of a child, but it can't be further from the truth. The stats above I listed are facts, we KNOW this has happened. Everything you posted is what the CDC fears COULD happen. But based on other countries, which have opened up schools, this has NOT been the case so far. Obviously that can change, but it just hasn't happened so far. There is no evidence of significant transmission or long-term damage by opening schools and school activities.
Also, lets go a step further on what can be expected. Do you really think NOT playing high school football or not attending in person school is going to help?

Let me ask this. Which is smarter? Keeping students in the same class 5 days a week? Or allowing them for 2-3 days to NOT be in the class, instead going to daycare centers (with other kids from all over the city) or being dropped off at a friends house (who knows what contact those individuals have had with COVID-19). Why not go to the same, sanitized building 5 days in a row around the same people instead of putting yourself in a different building around different people every day.

Now, lets transition to sports. Isn't it smarter to have the kids playing sports in environments where coaches are following the guidelines with sanitizing and social distancing instead of allowing the kids to play club sports where there are no guidelines to follow? Lets face it, kids who want to play sports will find a way, heck they already are doing it. In schools, we know that guidelines are followed.

So THAT is why I believe students should be in school and play sports. It is a much SMALLER risk than allowing them to go to a different place everyday or playing club sports (both of which aren't following the guidelines like our schools are).

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Re: Districts that have suspended summer workouts

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Penguin wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:09 am
"Short of locking COMPLETELY down until we have a workable vaccine that 100% of the population will take (which we know will NEVER happen) then the virus will not be stopped and can only be slowed down."

So, am I to understand that YOU propose allowing the virus to run wild as opposed to a measure that would slow down the spread of the virus? So, am I to understand that YOU are willing to allow more people to die just so that businesses can continue to exploit people? So, I am I to understand that YOU are willing to put money ahead of human life?

It is a good thing that seat belts in automobiles are a 100% guarantee of saving a person's life, lest YOU would prefer that they not be used at all. :roll: It sure is a good thing that we have a 100% prevention rate with the Mumps vaccine, the Rubella vaccine, the Flu vaccine, the Diphtheria vaccine, in fact, all of our current vaccines, lest you would oppose taking any one of them because any effort that isn't 100%, is useless. :roll:

You obviously have not heard the latest from the CDC regarding this disease. That those who contract it, especially those who contract it without symptoms, can, and may, have serious long term lung disease from it. Yes, that means that young children may have life altering complications from this virus without ever knowing that they have had it. And YOU are willing to expose them to it because there is no 100% guarantee that isolating them from it, will eradicate it.

I really do not mean to come off as making this about you personally, I see many others on this website with similar attitudes about this virus. Your post just appeared below mine and I felt it necessary to respond. This virus doesn't care what color your skin is, which, if any, church that you attend, your political affiliation, what High School that you represent, or what teams that you are a fan of. It affects you the same as it affects me. Getting this thing under control has got to happen or there are going to be way too many families burying their loved ones. Maybe it is your family. Maybe it is mine. It need not be either.
your basing this crap on a vaccine that may never come or ever work.why dont we wait in the tooth fairy while we are at it.
Other countrIes are over the hump because they didnt bull around with this virus.its going to whoop our butts.
Do you want to die by a thousand paper cuts or a bullet.
Ill take the bullet.
Yes keep the economy rolling.economic prosperity is what makes this country great.
If it cost sime lives so be it.some people would rather be dead than broke and starving anyway.

Not socialistic marxism of controling every aspect of our lives.
Make a choice stay inside if you decide thats whats best for you.
Let everyone else decide whats best for them.
Taking away the choice is the problem.

You can drag around whatever.fact is when its your time to die you will die.you cannot run from it.
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"Prisma Health, a major hospital system for Upstate and the Midlands, reports a spike in young adults having to be admitted to the hospital for COVID-19, according to The State.

DHEC recently reported an almost 1,000% increase in people 11 to 20 years old testing positive for the virus and a more than 400% increase for people 21 to 30."

I told you that my posts weren't directed at you, but that your post was the one that appeared below mine and was easiest to respond to. You do have some thin skin apparently. To answer your question(s), the above quote from our State Dept. of Health would appear to be completely in disagreement with your most "expert" recommendations. My position on this is that if it takes the sacrifices of everyone in this State to save just 1 life, then we should be taking those sacrifices as if it were our spouse, our child, or our parents, that were that 1 life.
The "Godfather" didn't whine like The "Slobfather" is doing, when he got INDICTED!!!!!

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Penguin wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:44 am
"Prisma Health, a major hospital system for Upstate and the Midlands, reports a spike in young adults having to be admitted to the hospital for COVID-19, according to The State.

DHEC recently reported an almost 1,000% increase in people 11 to 20 years old testing positive for the virus and a more than 400% increase for people 21 to 30."

I told you that my posts weren't directed at you, but that your post was the one that appeared below mine and was easiest to respond to. You do have some thin skin apparently. To answer your question(s), the above quote from our State Dept. of Health would appear to be completely in disagreement with your most "expert" recommendations. My position on this is that if it takes the sacrifices of everyone in this State to save just 1 life, then we should be taking those sacrifices as if it were our spouse, our child, or our parents, that were that 1 life.
absolutely wrong about the thin skin .i enjoy button pushing.
My position is sacrifice of the few for the lives of many.
If it takes a few million to save 300 million .it sucks if its one of ours yours.but it is what it is.
They are worried about blame and being appointed and ekected.
We have roughly 100 million over the age of 60.
Ver susceptible to covid.

It was the philosopher Kant who first put forth the utilitarian theory. It says that when faced with a decision to save either one or many but not both, a person will ultimately use their logic to save the many, though the decision is usually not easily come by.
Think on that for a while .

Basically you portray to save all but the reality is you are worried about your own self.standard marxist socialist ideological platform.
Accuse those vehemently of what you yourself are doing.
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My post was not directed at you. You are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. That makes neither one of them correct, although mine is supported by facts from DHEC. Since I am not near you and your family, please feel free to do as you see fit. Professor Darwin is sitting back eating popcorn while watching the show.
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Penguin wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:42 pm
My post was not directed at you. You are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. That makes neither one of them correct, although mine is supported by facts from DHEC. Since I am not near you and your family, please feel free to do as you see fit. Professor Darwin is sitting back eating popcorn while watching the show.
I social distance wear masks wash hands.
I will diagree with you.
We will see.
Im ready for fireworks beer and frogmore.

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Knock a half dollar hole on the upside.
Get you a bottle of 1800 premade margarita mix.
Stick bottle in till it soaks in.
Plug hole refrigerate .cut when ready to serve .
I will be trying a pineapple next .
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Penguin wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:44 am
"Prisma Health, a major hospital system for Upstate and the Midlands, reports a spike in young adults having to be admitted to the hospital for COVID-19, according to The State.

DHEC recently reported an almost 1,000% increase in people 11 to 20 years old testing positive for the virus and a more than 400% increase for people 21 to 30."

I told you that my posts weren't directed at you, but that your post was the one that appeared below mine and was easiest to respond to. You do have some thin skin apparently. To answer your question(s), the above quote from our State Dept. of Health would appear to be completely in disagreement with your most "expert" recommendations. My position on this is that if it takes the sacrifices of everyone in this State to save just 1 life, then we should be taking those sacrifices as if it were our spouse, our child, or our parents, that were that 1 life.
"My position on this is that if it takes the sacrifices of everyone in this State to save just 1 life, then we should be taking those sacrifices as if it were our spouse, our child, or our parents, that were that 1 life."

I have no problem with this quote, not the slightest, but if this is your stance, I would encourage you to act it out in everything about your life.
For example, I would encourage you to no longer drive a vehicle because you could very easily make a mistake that causes someone their life. Follow it in everything you do. I have heard many people make that statement but then in other parts of their lives that involve risk to others, they don't follow that rule

No, you didn't answer my questions (again you used a stat about an increase in testing positive), which has nothing to do with school transmissions. Also, the information I shared was based on countries that have returned to school. We have yet to see any hard data that shows going back to school will cause the virus to spread, in fact the studies have shown the opposite, that it doesn't spread.
Locally, the only test we have statewide is daycare centers. So far, we have heard literally nothing about virus spread in daycare centers, despite the fact that they never closed.

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