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DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:59 pm
by CITYSLICKER
SOUTH CAROLINA HIGH SCHOOL LEAGUE POSSIBLE 2024/2025 ALIGNMENT

CLASS 5-A
REGION ONE
EASLEY, GREENWOOD, T L HANNA, HILLCREST, J L MANN, MAULDIN, WESTSIDE, WOODMONT
REGION TWO
JAMES F BYRNES, BOILING SPRINGS, DORMAN, GREENVILLE, RIVERSIDE, SPARTANBURG,
RIVERSIDE, WADE HAMPTON
REGION THREE
CLOVER, FORT MILL, GAFFNEY, NATION FORD, NORTHWESTERN, ROCK HILL
REGION FOUR
BLYTHEWOOD, CATAWBA RIDGE, INDIANLAND, LUGOFF-ELGIN, SPRING VALLEY, WESTWOOD
REGION FIVE
DUTCH FORK, LEXINGTON, NORTH AUGUSTA, RIDGE VIEW, RIVER BLUFF, WHITE KNOLL
REGION SIX
CAROLINA FOREST, CONWAY, NORTH MYRTLE BEACH, ST. JAMES, SOCASTEE, SUMTER, WEST FLORENCE
REGION SEVEN
BERKELEY, CANE BAY, GOOSE CREEK, LUCY BECKHAM, STRATFORD, WANDO
REGION EIGHT
ASHLEY RIDGE, FORT DORCHESTER, MAY RIVER, R B STALL, SUMMERVILLE, WEST ASHLEY

CLASS 4-A
REGION ONE
BELTON-HONEA PATH, BEREA, DANIEL, PALMETTO, PICKENS, WREN
REGION TWO
EASTSIDE, FOUNTAIN INN, GREER, LAURENS, SOUTHSIDE, TRAVELERS REST
REGION THREE
A C FLORA, CAMDEN, DREHER, GRAY COLLEGIATE, LANCASTER, RICHLAND NORTHEAST, SOUTH POINTE
REGION FOUR
CRESTWOOD, HARTSVILLE, MARLBORO COUNTY, MYRTLE BEACH, SOUTH FLORENCE, WILSON

REGION FIVE
AIKEN, AIRPORT, BROOKLAND CAYCE, CHAPIN, GILBERT, IRMO, MIDLAND VALLEY, SOUTH AIKEN
REGION SIX
BEAUFORT, BLUFFTON, COLLETON COUNTY, HILTON HEAD, JAMES ISLAND, ORANGEBURG-WILKINSON
CLASS 3-A
REGION ONE
CRESCENT, PENDLETON, POWDERSVILLE, SENECA, WALHALLA, WEST-OAK
REGION TWO
BLUE RIDGE, CAROLINA, CLINTON, GETTYS BROOME, MOUNTAIN VIEW ACADEMY, WOODRUFF
REGION THREE
CHAPMAN, CHESTER, COLUMBIA, EAU CLAIRE, NEWBERRY, UNION COUNTY
REGION FOUR
AMERICAN LEADERSHIP LEXINGTON, EMERALD, FOX CREEK, W J KEENAN, LOWER RICHLAND,
STROM THURMOND, SWANSEA
REGION FIVE
AYNOR, DARLINGTON, DILLON, GEORGETOWN, LAKEWOOD, LORIS, MANNING, WACCAMAW
REGION SIX
ATLANTIC COLLEGIATE, BATTERY CREEK, BISHOP ENGLAND, HANAHAN, NORTH CHARLESTON,
OCEANSIDE COLLEGIATE, PHILLIP SIMMONS

CLASS 2-A
REGION ONE
BLACKSBURG, CHRIST CHURCH, LANDRUM, LIBERTY, SOUTHSIDE CHRISTIAN, ST. JOSEPH
REGION TWO
ANDREW JACKSON, BUFORD, CENTRAL, CHERAW, CHESNEE, FAIRFIELD CENTRAL
REGION THREE
BATESBURG-LEESVILLE, EDISTO, MID-CAROLINA, NORTH CENTRAL, PELION, SALUDA
REGION FOUR
BARNWELL, HAMPTON COUNTY, LAKE MARION, RIDGELAND-HARDEEVILLE, SILVER BLUFF, WHALE BRANCH
REGION FIVE
ANDREWS, EAST CLARENDON, GREEN SEA-FLOYDS, KINGSTREE, LEE CENTRAL, LAKE CITY, MARION, MULLINS
REGION SIX
ACADEMIC MAGNET, BAPTIST HILL, BURKE, CROSS, MILITARY MAGNET, ST JOHNS, TIMBERLAND,WOODLAND

CLASS 1-A
REGION ONE
ABBEVILLE, CALHOUN FALLS, DIXIE, MCCORMICK, NINETY-SIX, THORNWELL, WARE SHOALS
REGION TWO
C A JOHNSON, CHESTERFIELD, GREAT FALLS, LEWISVILLE, MCBEE, WHITMIRE
REGION THREE
BAMBERG-EHRHARDT, BLACKVILLE-HILDA, DENMARK-OLAR, HORSE CREEK ACADEMY, RIDGE SPRING-MONETTA,
WAGENER-SALLEY, WILLISTON-ELKO
REGION FOUR
ALLENDALE-FAIRFAX, BETHUNE-BOWMAN, BRANCHVILLE, CALHOUN COUNTY, HUNTER-KINARD-TYLER, NORTH
REGION FIVE
HANNAH-PAMPLICO, HEMINGWAY, JOHNSONVILLE, LAMAR, LATTA, LAKE VIEW, SCOTTS BRANCH

AMERICAN LEADERSHIP SCHOOLS TO BE ADDED LATER
AMERICAN LEADERSHIP GREENVILLE 2025
AMERICAN LEADERSHIP NORTH AUGUSTA 2025
AMERICAN LEADERSHIP BEAUFORT 2025

Re: DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:24 pm
by 7timechamps
So the numbers the SCHSL sent out had 38-46 teams in 4A but this only has 24, right?

Re: DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:02 am
by NHSTrojan
Thank you for taking a shot at this.

I don’t see York listed. I could have missed it.

Should be interesting to see what they come up with this time. Just hope we don’t end up in a region with Columbia schools. Gaffney is fine.

Re: DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:51 am
by Ddub14
7timechamps wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:24 pm
So the numbers the SCHSL sent out had 38-46 teams in 4A but this only has 24, right?
In this prediction there are 39 teams.
Also york is missing but I doubt they would be 4A
But may knock someone from 5A to 4A.

Re: DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:17 pm
by Fan4awhile
Ddub14 wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:51 am
7timechamps wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:24 pm
So the numbers the SCHSL sent out had 38-46 teams in 4A but this only has 24, right?
In this prediction there are 39 teams.
Also york is missing but I doubt they would be 4A
But may knock someone from 5A to 4A.
So maybe totally wrong, but I think the # that will determine a lot of movement will be students enrolled that are not zoned for that school. So if Daniel for example is a school of Choice and has 200 out of zoned students enrolled, the multiplier would increase their attendance 400 students? Just example, have no idea of anybody's enrollment. Am I understanding multiplier correctly?

Re: DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:34 pm
by underneaththelights
Ridgeland-Hardeeville will be in Single A as they are splitting (again) back to two separate High Schools.

Re: DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:13 pm
by Ddub14
Fan4awhile wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:17 pm
Ddub14 wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:51 am
7timechamps wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:24 pm
So the numbers the SCHSL sent out had 38-46 teams in 4A but this only has 24, right?
In this prediction there are 39 teams.
Also york is missing but I doubt they would be 4A
But may knock someone from 5A to 4A.
So maybe totally wrong, but I think the # that will determine a lot of movement will be students enrolled that are not zoned for that school. So if Daniel for example is a school of Choice and has 200 out of zoned students enrolled, the multiplier would increase their attendance 400 students? Just example, have no idea of anybody's enrollment. Am I understanding multiplier correctly?
Yes say school A has a 1000 students but 200 come from out of zone
So 800 in zone students
600 out of zone
1400 total.

An example where this is unfair is Wade Hampton hs
There are 1400 kids there
Over 400 go to the fine arts center
Technically should be 3a to start with
I would think 90% or more if those students do not play sports. They get zero athletic benefit out of those students
Most of those are out of zone. This will take them to the top end of 5A. Now is that fair?

Re: DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:41 am
by Fan4awhile
Ddub14 wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:13 pm
Fan4awhile wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:17 pm
Ddub14 wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:51 am
7timechamps wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:24 pm
So the numbers the SCHSL sent out had 38-46 teams in 4A but this only has 24, right?
In this prediction there are 39 teams.
Also york is missing but I doubt they would be 4A
But may knock someone from 5A to 4A.
So maybe totally wrong, but I think the # that will determine a lot of movement will be students enrolled that are not zoned for that school. So if Daniel for example is a school of Choice and has 200 out of zoned students enrolled, the multiplier would increase their attendance 400 students? Just example, have no idea of anybody's enrollment. Am I understanding multiplier correctly?
Yes say school A has a 1000 students but 200 come from out of zone
So 800 in zone students
600 out of zone
1400 total.

An example where this is unfair is Wade Hampton hs
There are 1400 kids there
Over 400 go to the fine arts center
Technically should be 3a to start with
I would think 90% or more if those students do not play sports. They get zero athletic benefit out of those students
Most of those are out of zone. This will take them to the top end of 5A. Now is that fair?
Thanks for expanding and thats a great point about arts school...........this whole school of choice Bill could totally change HS sports and you gotta know NIL gonna be a factor at some point

Re: DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:29 pm
by Ddub14
Fan4awhile wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:41 am
Ddub14 wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:13 pm
Fan4awhile wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:17 pm
Ddub14 wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:51 am
7timechamps wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:24 pm
So the numbers the SCHSL sent out had 38-46 teams in 4A but this only has 24, right?
In this prediction there are 39 teams.
Also york is missing but I doubt they would be 4A
But may knock someone from 5A to 4A.
So maybe totally wrong, but I think the # that will determine a lot of movement will be students enrolled that are not zoned for that school. So if Daniel for example is a school of Choice and has 200 out of zoned students enrolled, the multiplier would increase their attendance 400 students? Just example, have no idea of anybody's enrollment. Am I understanding multiplier correctly?
Yes say school A has a 1000 students but 200 come from out of zone
So 800 in zone students
600 out of zone
1400 total.

An example where this is unfair is Wade Hampton hs
There are 1400 kids there
Over 400 go to the fine arts center
Technically should be 3a to start with
I would think 90% or more if those students do not play sports. They get zero athletic benefit out of those students
Most of those are out of zone. This will take them to the top end of 5A. Now is that fair?
Thanks for expanding and thats a great point about arts school...........this whole school of choice Bill could totally change HS sports and you gotta know NIL gonna be a factor at some point
One of the biggest problems I see with this rule going forward is that 5A schools can now recruit with zero penalties . They are already 5A where are they going to go?
This has disaster written all over it.

Re: DOODLES REALIGNMENT THOUGHTS

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:49 am
by *Topcat*
Please please let this be wrong for Abbeville to be in Class A. There are some good teams in Class A, but, not many after this year. That region , for us, would be a joke, no fun at all, no disrespect intended but it's just the truth. Ticket sales would plunge as well. Even some of the better teams in AA are going to AAA in this projection. For the love of everything football related, leave us in AA!!!!!!!! Please!!!!